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Thanks!

Decided to do this for my Research Paper topic so first comes the scouring the webs for sources and Academia to send me stuff.

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Thank you! I’ve added that to the wish list as well. I’ve recently decided not to take the next term for school. The family and I should be relocating to Florida and I’m just worn out from all the course work! I got my A.S. in General Education with a History focus back in may and maybe I’m just a little burned out! Normally I have a week or two between each term and other than that I’m in school full time. I started back in August of 2012 and have been at it the whole time. I imagine it is much easier to go to school when one is younger and before they start out in life. Haha, being an adult learner is such a juggling exercise!

That all said, it frees up a lot of time to tackle my personal reading list. I’m going to order the two books you have mentioned this month along with Albion’s Seed. I’d like to read those in the coming months. I’ll let you know if I a particular group peeks my interest. From what was mentioned in Howe’s work I’m interested in the Anti-Mission Baptists, Millerites, and Seventh-Day Adventists.

I’m interested in those groups because I got the feeling that the Second Great Awakening was generally a departure from heavy theology and an embrace of emotional appeal and delivery. The groups I’ve mentioned seemed as though they rejected the Arminianism that was so popular at the time. Something about going against the majority draws my attention.

Maybe I’ve gotten this all wrong and mixed up but I find the research and study that comes from interest most of the fun! Haha.

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It seems to be a really good book. I like how easily it flows. I’ll order Watson’s book as well but I’m finding myself crunched for time! Just a lot of information to absorb with the text and the lectures. I’ve been interested on a side note of a spiritual nature on the Second Great Awakening. I’m interested to know if there is a good history of protestant thought in America.

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Just got my text in today. “What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America – 1815-1848” by Daniel Walker Howe.

What a gigantic text! Haha, apparently won the Pulitzer Prize for History!

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Professors,

I just finished reading over all those links… Quite a lot of information but at least it addressed some of the concerns I had with the convention. I did not realize that my objections had already been raised by other groups but apparently people have been thinking about how to fix the monster for a long time! My concerns were addressed by your review, ’38 states still have to ratify what comes out of it’, and the follow up concerns by the Compact for America (CFA).

I came across the idea from a friend of mine from school who seemed to be really excited about the process and could not answer any of my objections or questions. I’m more comfortable with the idea now but agree that a good deal of educating of the public would have to take place. If the vehicle of the CFA was in place and the public was aware and supportive I could see it making a difference.

Before this I was reliant on nullification only, but, I can see how the Buchanan ‘public choice theory’ just meant that I was at best slowing down the inevitable. Now I see nullification as a sort of a skirmish or battle to provide more time to put into place the things necessary to win. The winning strategy appears to be this CFA vehicle and Article V convention or secession. Either way requires a great deal of education, motivating, and dedication. The ‘con-con’ seems much more obtainable and far less bloody.

Dan

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Thanks professors,

I’m looking forward to studying up on this through the resources y’all have provided. I’ve finals this and next weeks but after that I’m going to jump into it.

My gut instinct appears to be wrong; at least as far as the convention goes.

However, I’m still wondering about the other part of my musings. Namely, do you believe the mainstream right are using this as a red herring or are they legitimently and sincerely wanting a return to limited government.

Either way I’ll have to get read up on this issue.

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You’re right, although it’s only been four days… I’ve typically gotten faster response from the Faculty… I’ll place it in Constitutional History cause it seems to fit the best.

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Dr. J,

Well, that just goes to show the quality of your lectures. If I’d not seen them, taken the quizzes, and read some of the recommended.; I might have learned something from the text.

I got my term paper topic of mercantalism vs laissez faire; any works you recommend?

~Dan

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It is indeed; Second Edition by Woloch and Brown.

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I remember coming across Ayn Rand and Rothbard at the same time back in 2007/8. It was a discussion on an online forum for Ron Paul’s 2008 campaign. It was the first time I heard minarchist and the first time I heard anarchist positively… Not knowing much about the people or terms I googled it. Anarchism/Minarchism: Is a Government Part of a Free Country? by Roderick T. Long and Tibor R. Machan came up. I had a friend purchase it and ship it to me overseas. I was a minarchist for a long while because of Ron Paul and Machan.

The joke about libertarian/minarchist to anarchist only being six months was more like four years for me. Tom mentioned it in a video and made me give Rothbard and anarcho-capitalism another look. Reading more Rothbard directly led to the selling of the book, haha.

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Now if I can get to that without purchasing the book, haha. Thanks for the pointer.

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Dr. J,

I asked her and it is both with a minor tweak. The impact is on the period and beyond. I had not thought about crossbows or gunpowder but that makes a lot of sense. Any other ideas?

Dan

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I was wrestling with Livingston’s assessment in the video about planting libertarianism in the metaphysical parties group. What you say about it makes sense as I can find agreement with an atheist for a long way in libertarianism. When we reach disagreement it is often after we have left the realm of politics, so it was difficult for me to see the ‘Midas Touch’ argument Livingston made applying.

I’ve returned the “Rousseau’s Dog” book to the library already. I did not find it too particularly helpful for the paper. The author appears to firmly be on Rousseau’s side so it was a bit like listening to one long rant from someone I disagree with. Again your “How to Read a Book” recommendation has saved me time, effort, and discomfort. A quick inspectional reading yielded an awareness of his argument and quotes for my paper.

I’m very sympathetic to Hume and find myself giving him the benefit of the doubt quite often.

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I know you were directing this question at Dr. J (I want to see his answer as well), however, I’m currently in the research phase of a syntopical term paper covering the Scottish Enlightenment. I found a quote about the History of England quoting Hume himself on the matter in “Rousseau’s Dog: Two Great Thinkers at War in the Age of Enlightenment”.

“Hume congratulated himself on arriving at a balance between both interpretations. [Whig and Tory] “My views of things are more conformable to Whig principles; my representations of persons to Troy prejudices.” But as Hume also understood, his readers were more influenced by his character studies, and so saw him as writing from a Tory viewpoint. “Nothing can so much prove that men commonly regard more persons than things, as to find that I am commonly numbered among the Tories.” (Edmonds pg 24)

In Western Civilization to 1500 the lecture 13 The Enlightenment, Part 1 has a link in the references to a Dr. Livingston talk/lecture where he actually covers this aspect. It’s a pretty decent video and the site has a breakdown to quickly find different aspects: Hume’s Histories are listed and there are further remarks.

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