Peter Schiff vs Jeff Herbener on Manufacturing

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    petersonclarence
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    I have conflicting views regarding the loss of the manufacturing jobs in the United States over the last decade. I’ve heard Dr. Jeff Herbener, and also Don Boudreaux in an interview on the Tom Woods Show, say that there is nothing necessarily wrong with fewer manufacturing jobs and having them be replaced with jobs in health care or education. But Peter Schiff, who is also an Austrian economist, says that we need more manufacturing jobs, because the economy is better when things are made in America. He just released a video saying that manufacturing is the most important part of an economy. Why is Peter Schiff wrong?

    #18611
    jmherbener
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    As a system of production, the economy is the division of labor. Each person produces to satisfy the consumptive ends of other persons and has his own consumptive ends satisfied by others. It follows that a “better economy” is one in which people use their resources to satisfy more valuable consumptive ends that they have. It also follows that the location, nationality, ethnicity, etc. of different persons are not relevant, per se, to the determination of who the best producers are in satisfying the consumptive ends of any person.

    Productivity increases over time as persons accumulate capital. If productivity rises sufficiently in some area, then a smaller proportion of people may be needed to produce in that area to satisfy the consumptive ends of everyone. Such a process has occurred with agriculture starting in the second half of the 19th century. The percent of workers in agriculture has fallen from around 70 percent in 1840 to around 2 percent today. The same process started in manufacturing after the Second World War. The percent of workers in manufacturing has fallen since then from around 30 percent to around 10 percent today.

    Non-farm employment data are in figure 5 of this article:

    http://www.prb.org/pdf08/63.2uslabor.pdf

    Here is a useful short analysis:

    http://www.minnpost.com/macro-micro-minnesota/2012/02/history-lessons-understanding-decline-manufacturing

    #18612
    kallanwelsh
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    There’s nothing “inherently” wrong with the loss of manufacturing jobs to other countries/overall, if that is what is most economically efficient. I think Peter Schiff is more commenting on government intervention which makes manufacturing in the US relatively less profitable.

    It would be better that most/all government regulation not exist and allow the free market to determine where things get made.

    I’ve certainly never heard Schiff say we should devalue our currency to make American manufacturing more competitive.

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