Denying the antecedent

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  • #19196
    spectraz
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    Consider the following arguments:

    1. If you didn’t pass the test, then you didn’t pass the course.
    2. You did pass the test.
    3. You did pass the course.

    How should I reconstruct/evaluate this argument? The pattern of argument is called “Denying the antecedent” and looks like this:

    1. If P then Q.
    2. ¬P.
    3. ¬Q.

    How do I interpret the negations of “pass the test” and “pass the course”? Can I also interpret it like this:

    1. If ¬P then ¬Q.
    2. P.
    3. Q.

    I have another question concering validity in this example:

    1. All logicians are dull.
    2. Irving is not a logician.
    3. Irving is dull.

    Pattern:

    1. All As are Bs
    2. x is not an A
    3. x is B

    Now, does this follow from the premises? Shouldn’t it be the invalid pattern:

    1. All As are Bs.
    2. x is not an A.
    3. x is not a B.

    #19197
    gerard.casey
    Participant

    Dear Daniel,

    You wrote:

    “Consider the following arguments:

    1. If you didn’t pass the test, then you didn’t pass the course.
    2. You did pass the test.
    3. You did pass the course.

    How should I reconstruct/evaluate this argument? The pattern of argument is called “Denying the antecedent” and looks like this:

    1. If P then Q.
    2. ¬P.
    3. ¬Q.

    How do I interpret the negations of “pass the test” and “pass the course”? Can I also interpret it like this:

    1. If ¬P then ¬Q.
    2. P.
    3. Q.”

    Yes. It’s the same pattern. P is equivalent to ¬¬P (which is the negation of the antecedent), and Q is equivalent to ¬¬Q which is the negation of the consequent.

    You also wrote:

    “I have another question concerning validity in this example:

    1. All logicians are dull.
    2. Irving is not a logician.
    3. Irving is dull.

    Pattern:

    1. All As are Bs
    2. x is not an A
    3. x is B

    Now, does this follow from the premises?”

    No. Any valid syllogism with a negative premise must have a negative conclusion so x is B cannot be a valid conclusion from those premises.

    I’m not sure what you mean by saying “Shouldn’t it be the invalid pattern:

    1. All As are Bs.
    2. x is not an A.
    3. x is not a B”

    There can be more than one invalid conclusion from any given set of premises. However, if what you are suggesting is the “x is not a B” is the more plausible invalid conclusion, then I would agree with you. At least it is negative and so would at least pass rule 4.

    Thank you as usual for your questions.

    Best wishes,

    GC

    #19198
    spectraz
    Member

    I have now confirmed my valid interpretation of the first argument. I am slowly learning to identify patterns where the premises have switched places and where the negations have changed places, compared to the pre-given patterns of arguments I have studied before.

    As for the second one, I was looking for a specific invalid pattern. I had only seen two patterns of invalid arguments in predicate logic prior to seeing the argument above, and I was looking for one of them to fit the argument I translated. It would be helpful to have some more examples of invalid arguments just in case I stumble upon these types of arguments in the future.

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