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April 15, 2012 at 9:20 am #16303
walter.palma
MemberWhat was, roughly, the percentage of citizens with voting rights (out of to the entire population) in an ancient Greek democracy (such as under Cleisthenes)?
My assumption is that the percentage of inhabitants eligible for voting was significantly smaller in the typical ancient Greek democracy than it is in today’s typical democracy. Is this correct or is there actually not that much of a difference after all?
April 15, 2012 at 1:56 pm #16304Jason Jewell
ParticipantIn a democratic state like Athens, all citizens had voting rights, but not all inhabitants were citizens. Citizenship was limited in most poleis to free adult males who had at least one parent from the city in question. This means that in a city like Athens, where the majority of the population was slaves, only a small percentage of the inhabitants were citizens.
There is a thorough discussion of the concept of Greek citizenship in Book III of Aristotle’s “Politics.”
April 21, 2012 at 7:04 am #16305matej.ogorevc
MemberI think I remember reading in Rothbard’s History of Economic Thought that it was somewhere in the area of 7%. Would that be about right?
April 21, 2012 at 3:06 pm #16306Jason Jewell
ParticipantRothbard gives the 7% figure on p. 6 of “Economic Thought before Adam Smith.” He doesn’t provide a citation, so I’m not sure where he got that number, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable. When I get back to the office Monday, I’ll check a source or two and see if I come up with anything different. The figure will naturally fluctuate depending on what moment in Athenian history you’re examining.
April 22, 2012 at 9:09 pm #16307woods
ParticipantI have generally seen 10% and (more often) 20% as the figure.
April 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm #16308Jason Jewell
ParticipantThe sources I’ve been looking at today put the citizenship figure at around 10% of the Athenian population in the fifth century B.C. Citizens had to prove Athenian ancestry on both the father’s and mother’s sides of the family. Around half the free population of Athens didn’t meet this requirement.
April 24, 2012 at 10:27 am #16309matej.ogorevc
MemberMeaning 80% were of the inhabitants were slaves and serfs? Sheesh.
Thanks for the answers!April 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm #16310Jason Jewell
ParticipantMatej, a substantial percentage of the Athenian population was free non-citizens, or “metics.” Think of them as analogous to resident aliens in our society. They participated freely in the commerce and life of the city, but they were unable to vote in the Assembly.
April 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm #16311matej.ogorevc
MemberI’m not sure I’m following… so half of the free population did not meet the requirements for citizenship (i.e. the metics). The other half that did, made up 10% of the population, meaning the free population would have to be 20%. Am I missing something?
April 24, 2012 at 1:31 pm #16312Jason Jewell
ParticipantCitizens: ~10%
Wives of citizens: ~10%
Children of citizens: ?
Metics: ~20% or more
Slaves: the restI hope this helps.
April 24, 2012 at 6:53 pm #16313matej.ogorevc
MemberSo roughly 50% were slaves then..
It absolutely does help, thanks!April 24, 2012 at 9:39 pm #16314Brion McClanahan
MemberAnd, don’t forget, that removing to another city state meant that you had no status in the new location. Citizenship was a prized possession in ancient Greece.
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