Six years later! I’m impressed that someone would be determined to go through this old thread to take up the topic again.
I’ve looked over the previous posts and I’m not sure that I can add anything new or illuminating to what I’ve said already.
It may well be that I don’t fully appreciate the point of your post. If that is so (and it is very likely to be so!), if you wanted to summarise the point at issue for me, you could email me directly at firstname.lastname@example.org and we can continue the conversation there.